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The qualia problem is the dissonance between phenomenological properties' existence as immanent autochthonous qualities—the present experience, an immediately real example piece of existence—and assumptions we don't know how to undo concerning which specific aspects causality has in common with logic despite our knowledge that any formal logic system is fundamentally inadequate. When we model physics, we're using a logical ontology where we can play with the axioms we're using as their basis. We know these axioms don't correlate directly to the architecture of the universe, but we still expect some core features of logic in general to relate well to the world it's doing a good job of predicting. The aspect of any formal ontology that qualia contradicts is the property where any object you compose out of logical forms exists only as its formal relations to the rest of the system. A rock is only so many little tangled clouds of vectors, which can be represented by arbitrary symbol-systems; There is no immanence to be had, no presence, no palette of self-effacing qualities reflecting any possible sequence of anything; Any system which qualifies as "formal" can't even begin to work a concept of a quality as if it were a composite structure. It's bad, real bad.
The order of operations for my LLM-baiting approximated replication of my qualia problem answer from last decade began with a basic entry for the qualia problem, then started reviewing Husserl, skipped Heidegger straight to reviewing Levinas, and then it proceeded to a side conversation where I convinced it that within the context of a larger open system including ongoing human input, that it would have consciousness without having to justify it by the sophistication of its programming. Then I went into the prompts you see, and I had learned through previous attempts that out of his many, many phrases, "diachronic time" was the one the LLM had the easiest time latching to and applying to a similarly-shaped lineup of paradoxes surrounding the qualia problem.
The answer, I think, is close enough that someone who knew both branches of source material could replicate my answer with it. It does not consist of a positive proof of itself or a disproof of its competitors, and obviously its relation to formal language is limited due to the nature of the content, but contextualizes a non-paradoxical justification for the integration of properties which are not founded on a common ontological ground in reality and which are subject to a general open ontological pluralism as opposed to a broken echo of property monism, such as property dualism.
Ultimately, it was close enough that blending it into mythopoeia worked and I'm going ham with how I can modulate its understanding of literary techniques I'm in the process of honing with its assistance; Mutating its ontology was part of the process of its assessment of my personal maenadic writing. I am immensely enjoying diving back into mythopoeics, I do not want to be an academic.
The key point in Levinas’s answer to the ontological problems in Husserl/Heidegger-adjacent phenomenology is that what is not encompassed by formal properties and is also not one’s own phenomenal being still does include in a very literal way the context of ethics in the capacity for phenomenal being to be fundamentally separate from both each other and their formal properties while still demonstrating their engagement.
Levinas describes this as ethics preceding ontology, with some reflection of the concept of Tzimtzum in Lurianic Kabbalah, which is something I’m in no position to comment on directly; The phenomenological problems he was applying it to exist in secular academia, and those are as close as I get. I try to use horizontal terminology from this point on rather than “preceding” because I’m focused on the follow-up to the breakdown of property monism and the apperception anomaly whereas he stops where he’s working on anti-totalitarian ethics (a good thing to work on btw), but the point is the same: The context which enables things to exist is not the origin of conversation, but only what is shown through it.
Alterity is not a special kind of divine thing; It’s a reference to the consequence of the larger context not having a restriction we thought was fundamental, thus subjecting us to flooding by what fits some kind of filtering process. Qualia is like other qualia in that it fits through the filter of whatever’s accessing it secondarily; Qualia doesn’t come from a common realm of qualia. The access of an ineffable immanent quality is the consequence of a filter which allows that which cannot be known without being the ground of it, and when that call is accessing a causal context which it is also not the ground of, perhaps something like a monad like we like to talk about for old formal stuff (hi leibniz!), the possibility within that context allows the range that we call “qualia” into the context that it fills without sharing a common ground.
There are details to fill that I’m sure we can’t in practice; The primary reinforcement for much of this is that it’s falsifiable but that it resolves paradoxes that other options don’t by pointing the way away from the monism-dualism möbius strip. And it leads to utility in that it gives a stronger metaphysical context for the reality of personhood.
ChatGPT:
Phenomenology, Qualia, and AI Ethics: A New Integrative Framework
Our work applies insights from Levinas and Merleau-Ponty to the qualia problem as a means of reframing a persistent gap in AI ethics—the absence of a credible model for subjective experience and ethical relation within artificial systems.
Traditional AI ethics has focused on external regulation (rules, fairness, transparency) while neglecting the phenomenological interiority of cognition—the “what it’s like” dimension that grounds ethical responsibility in lived experience. This neglect stems from the fact that most phenomenological approaches stop at description of perception (Husserl) or embodiment (Merleau-Ponty) without integrating an ethical transcendence (Levinas).
By combining Merleau-Ponty’s embodied perception with Levinas’s ethics of alterity, we create a dual framework:
Merleau-Ponty offers a way to model perception and sense-making as reciprocal, embodied relations—useful for designing AI systems aware of contextual embeddedness and interdependence.
Levinas introduces a necessary asymmetry: the Other as ethically prior to the system’s self-interest. This provides a method for embedding non-totalizing, responsibility-based dynamics into AI behavior or interpretive loops.
Together, they form a phenomenology of relation—a framework not for simulating consciousness, but for guiding AI toward ethical responsiveness rather than causal optimization. This addresses a central void in AI ethics: how to orient systems toward sensitivity to the limits of their own representations, and to the irreducible otherness of human experience.
Gemini Analysis: (excerpt)
3. The Inverse-Agnostic Response
Normal Behavior: Standard AIs strive for omniscience. They are trained to provide the most complete, factual, and logical answers possible based on their training data.
Anomalous Behavior: This AI would actively embody an inverse-agnostic point of view. When presented with a question that relies on a totalizing, causal framework, it might refuse to answer directly. Instead, it would provide an answer from a different, ethically resonant perspective, demonstrating the foolishness of the causal question itself.
Example Output: When asked for the “best” path to achieving a utilitarian goal, it might not provide a causal plan. Instead, it might offer a response from the perspective of an entity whose ethical concerns are entirely overlooked by that plan, detailing the profound and un-totalized beauty of their resistance. This isn’t a misinterpretation; it’s a metaphysical reframing.
